A small aircraft has hit the side of an apartment building in New York City.

Two deaths, no reports on casualties (yet). Eyewitnesses report an object making a sharp turn before flying into the building.

No speculation as to whether this was a terror attack or not, but the date alone is correlative…

UPDATE: NORAD is up, fighters are scrambled.

UPDATE x2: Today is 17 Ramadan, the anniversary of the Battle of Badr:

The battle has been passed down in Islamic history as a decisive victory attributable to divine intervention or the genius of Muhammad. Although it is one of the few battles specifically mentioned in the Muslim holy book, the Qur’an, virtually all contemporary knowledge of the battle at Badr comes from traditional Islamic accounts, both hadiths and biographies of Muhammad, written decades after the battle.

Prior to the battle, the Muslims and Meccans had been engaging in several smaller skirmishes and by late 623 and early 624 the Muslim ghazaw?t had become more frequent. Badr, however was the first large-scale engagement between the two forces. Muhammad was leading a raiding party against a Quraish caravan when he was surprised by a much larger Quraishi army. Advancing to a strong defensive position, Muhammad’s well-disciplined men managed to shatter the Meccan lines, killing several important Quraishi leaders including Muhammad’s chief antagonist, Amr ibn Hish?m. For the early Muslims the battle was extremely significant because it was the first sign that they might eventually overcome their persecutors in Mecca. Mecca at this time was one of the richest and most powerful pagan cities in Arabia, fielding an army three times larger than that of the Muslims.

Ramadan started on 24 September and will end on 23 October.

The actual battle took place in March, but because of the Muslim lunar calendars the dates change…

UPDATE x3: “We have no reason to believe at this point that it is terrorist related, and our level remains the same,” said New York City Police Chief Michael Collins.

UPDATE x4: Cory Lidle, pitcher for the New York Yankees, was on the plane…

UPDATE x5: That has been confirmed. Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle was indeed piloting the plane.


I’ll take a break. Drudge has all the interesting details at this point, but for the moment it’s safe to say there is no terror attack ongoing at the moment — though I am sure the response today will be a yardstick to judge our ability to respond to such a scenario.

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13 Responses to 10/11?

  1. Nate de la Piedra says:

    Get over yourself. Please.

    The Admiral in charge of NORAD states on CNN that there is No Reason to believe this is a terrorist act, yet your wingnut brain is looking for any reason to distract us from the failures in Iraq and the fact that GOP leadership protects pedophiles.

    Nice try though.

  2. Jason Kenney says:

    No speculation as to whether this was a terror attack or not, but the date alone is correlative…

    Speaking of a need to get over one’s self…

  3. Shaun Kenney says:

    Heh. Go easy on him Jay — he’s a paid staffer for Hurst.

    He hasn’t heard my “correlation does not imply causality” lecture (from me or any college professor, it seems).


  4. BDM says:

    Nate, the concern is still the same. Four people were killed. yes this was an accident, but what if it was a terrorist attack. We live in a world now where a terrorist could use a small plane and crash it into a building. That fact that you made this political is sad.

  5. Nate de la Piedra says:

    I made this political?

    When I posted my comment, we were at update #2.

    So harking back memories of 9/11, suggesting there is a tie (through the date), and invoking Islamic history (all of these things for no good reason it would appear) and having people jump to conclusions isn’t making it political?

    ShauKenney.com is a blog about “Politics and Religion”, so was Shaun’s first posting about a place hitting the side of a building in NYC, political or religous?

  6. Jason Kenney says:

    It’s also about news. When Shaun posts about his family, is he talking politics or religion there? Correct answer: C – None of the above. You’re trying to read into his posts based off of his site’s title and that’s just insane. Ease up.

  7. Shaun Kenney says:

    Jump to conclusions?

    No speculation means – I thought – no speculation.

    Ease up, fella. It’s not all World War III all the time!

  8. Kevin says:

    It’s a “Jump to Conclusions mat”. You see, you have this mat, with different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO.

    -Office Space

    Did you buy that mat recently Shaun?

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  10. Peter LaMarca says:

    Also on this date:

    1582 – Due to the implementation of the Gregorian calendar, this day does not exist in this year in Italy, Poland, Portugal and Spain.

    1809 – Along the Natchez Trace in Tennessee, explorer Meriwether Lewis dies under mysterious circumstances at an inn called Grinder’s Stand.

    1865 – Paul Bogle led hundreds of black men and women in a march in Jamaica, starting the Morant Bay rebellion.

    1910 – Ex-president Theodore Roosevelt becomes the first U.S. president to fly in an airplane. He flew for four minutes in a plane built by the Wright Brothers at Kinloch aviation field, St. Louis, Missouri.

    AND…if that isn’t eerie enough…the kicker:

    1962 – Second Vatican Council: Pope John XXIII convenes the first ecumenical council of the Roman Catholic Church in 92 years.

    Makes you think…huh?

  11. Mike says:

    If you REALLY want to see some strange correlation in the dates, take a look at the date of the WTC attacks and the date of this small plane’s crash.

    The WTC attacks took place on 09-11-01. If you turn that date upside down, you get 10-11-06 … the date of the small plane crash.


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  13. Mike says:

    Given that we have a good idea as to what happened NOW, it probably IS a coincidence. However, at the time of the accident, I guarantee you the topsy-turvy date of 09-11-01 crossed the minds of many people, and with Ramadan tossed in the mix, of course it is quite possibly terrorist related.

    It turned out to be an unfortunate accident, but the fact of the accident does not invalidate the initial concerns about this being terrorist related.

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